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BLG Filipino Champ and Koogy at Brokentier just put the finishing touches on the January 2011 SSF4 Tier List and this might be the last update before we move onto tracking Arcade Edition match-ups. We've made some adjustments not only to the data, of course, but also the chart itself, so hopefully it will be a little easier to read now. 

Check out individual match-ups by clicking the image above. Quick-look rankings are below. 

A: Akuma, Fei-Long, Guile, Cammy, Chun-Li, Dictator, Boxer, E. Honda, Abel
B: Ryu, Rufus, Dhalsim, C. Viper, Seth, Zangief, Ibuki, Sagat, Dudley, Blanka, DeeJay, Juri, Adon, Ken
C: Rose, Claw, El Fuerte, Guy, T. Hawk
D: Cody, Gouken, Gen, Makoto, Sakura, Dan, Hakan

Reader Comments (73)

lol at rose being so low and cody being lower than hawk. This list seems like a bust imo.

January 5, 2011 | Unregistered CommenterDoom

Makoto with no match ups worse than 4:6? Hahaha! Boxer is at best a 3:7 match up. At best!
Also I don't see why everybody ranks Sakura so low, she's my secondary (alongside Cammy) and I have no big problems with her.
Anyway, the top and higher tiers are interesting and seem pretty well thought out.

January 5, 2011 | Registered CommenterCheesus

Cody is way too low, Rose is way too low... I'm just gonna stop there are too many things wrong.

January 5, 2011 | Unregistered CommenterPelma

haha, what a pathetic idiot.

loses 7-0 to tokido and puts akuma on top in the tier list

January 5, 2011 | Unregistered CommenterG

Leave tier lists to the Japanese thx.

January 5, 2011 | Unregistered CommenterVoice of Reason

The match ups for Rose are quite wrong. You can add about 3 points in her favour for her. First the Bison match up is in his favour 6-4. Ryu match up is 5-5. Dhalsim match up is 5-5. Honda is 5-5

That lowers some of the other chars and puts Rose about solid mid tier. Which is where she's at

January 5, 2011 | Unregistered CommenterVecayse

Ma Rose is C ? D:

Don't think so... And daaaamn, Cody at D?

January 5, 2011 | Unregistered CommenterYuri Barbosa Ordeste

Also Blanka may be a 5-5 too.

and lol at all the match up data coming from one guy.

January 5, 2011 | Unregistered CommenterVecayse

in this list Adon is the most even character in the game, wich is totally bullshit in my opnion.
i guess ppl dont know much stuff about him and put 5/5 in matchups they dont know about

January 5, 2011 | Unregistered CommenterCSS

Unfortunately it's pretty true for Cody. While he's a solid character ON PAPER, in game everyone else is just more solid at what they do than Cody. I keep playing as him though because it's fun, and it's nice to blow people up and be like "Yo, I'm freaking bored over here."

January 5, 2011 | Unregistered CommenterCasshern

This list seems to be alot like a character usage list. All the most played charcters are in the mid or top.

Those in the bottom are just underplayed IMO. But what do I know ^_^

January 5, 2011 | Unregistered CommenterNineOneSicks

big lol at people saying "this list is garbage because Cody is low tier"

Cody fucking sucks. Try playing as him sometime.. he is garbage. Worse than Hawk & Guy both, easily.

January 5, 2011 | Unregistered CommenterCody

Some of Sakura's 4-6s should be 5-5s, and at least Guy should be 6-4.
Sakura is way underrated. I know why, nobody in the states is playing her so nobody's really up on what she can do.

As for the rest of the list, I'm not going to talk out of my ass and comment on characters I don't play.

January 5, 2011 | Unregistered CommenterCanadian

First f.champ can't beat rickys rufus so that character is the top character, and now when he can't beat tokido akuma is the best character. Its so obvious there is a huge personal bias.

America can't really make tier charts as well as there are no players for a lot of characters. If Uryos Sakura would come over she would be much higher. America has no Akumas so all this info is off tokido beating americans. Gouken should be much higher as well.

January 5, 2011 | Unregistered CommenterJubay

if you want to criticize the tier list: pick a character; pick a matchup; say the number should be different; explain why. you can do this in less than 100 characters. its not that hard.

I don't like F Champ either but your personal opinion of him is not a valid argument when it comes to tiers.

January 5, 2011 | Unregistered CommenterCody

yo this tier list is jacked. people still sleeping on t hawk haha, he beats dudley and zangief 6-4, cammy, fei long, rufus and ryu matches are all 5-5, not 4-6.

but on the other hand, guile, seth, gouken, rose, sagat, and honda should all be 3-7 against hawk, so hahah i guess it kinda evens out

January 5, 2011 | Registered CommenterRandomUltraDavid

see alot of things wrong with this...


Cody Bison is
in Bison's favor....6-4 for starts...

Bison vs Gief is still in Giefs Favor..

Blanka vs Guile is in Guiles favor...

Blanka vs Gouken is in Blanka's favor

January 5, 2011 | Unregistered CommenterSIKWIDIT510

l rly rly lol'd with that shit...

Air FTW
http://airryu.blogspot.com/2010/12/my-matchup-tier-list-for-ryu.html

I think this is what is great about ssf4, it's a pretty freakin' balanced game (aside from a few of course lol) so the tier list are going to change a lot and no-one will be happy with most of the characters placement. Match-ups seem a lot more based on personal experience (Although a lot is still based on obvious things about match-ups that no one can deny).

January 5, 2011 | Unregistered CommenterMrMayor

I agree 100% with you, Cody. If players want to provide constructive criticism, I'm sure it would only help to improve the list.

I also highly disagree with bringing personal opinions about Filipino Champ into this. Filipino Champ did not arrange this list, he just inputted the data. The numbers were then sorted by me, in the correct order based on the data he gave me. He didn't even know who would be in what position until after I finished this.

And sorry, America has just as much say as the Japanese do in rankings. Just because one person can play one character well, doesn't make that character suddenly 100x better. I believe the correct way to view the chart is "on AVERAGE, against two evenly skilled players, which character has the advantage". If you want to make PLAYER tier charts, that's an entirely different ball game.

AGAIN. If players want to provide constructive criticism, I'm sure it would only help to improve the list.

January 5, 2011 | Registered CommenterKoogy

ppl dont even try the "low tier" characters out to give a better opnion they just ramdomly give 4:6 against them.

and rose is way too low on that list characters like Ibuki, Dudley, DeeJay and Juri are better than her?really?

January 5, 2011 | Unregistered Commenterlover

Throw:

Dhalsim in A
Rose in B
Sakura in B
Adon a bit higher
Guile in lower A
Dictator in lowest A
Boxer in top 3 A

And then its a great list (imo)

January 5, 2011 | Unregistered Commentersmashingme

This list is gonna change quite a bit when AE comes out. I feel like Sakura should be in C tier in the current edition though

January 5, 2011 | Registered CommenterKapwan

I don't think Fei's that good. Hawk should maybe be a few places up, he's better than people think, mainly due to the damage and whatnot.

January 5, 2011 | Unregistered Commenter...

Philipino fag is foolish. Saying akuma is A on top of all is just foolish.

Cammy is 6-4?

Honda is even? How foolish LOL. Honda 2 hand slaps it's done

January 5, 2011 | Unregistered CommenterYou

Don't be afraid to say 7-3. 5-5 is absolutely even.

Dudley's matchups versus Dhalsim and Guile are at least 3-7. Cody, Sakura, and Rose aren't THAT bad character.

Even though it's a little funky, the matchups seem just a little bit more realistic than last time.

January 5, 2011 | Unregistered CommenterBlueLambency

For DeeJay, that's 5-5 IMO. While DeeJay can't win a FB war he can rush him down very well. Once ur within range Guile actually has a hard time handling DJ's crossups, whereas Guile can't ever hope to jump in on DeeJay. Basicly, one owns long range while the other owns close range. DJ vs Viper is 6-4 for DeeJay IMO. Upkicks eat Super Jumps and Burnkicks all day. But that's my personal opinion. I don't really have much trouble against Viper. Other than that everything else with DeeJay seems to be right.

January 5, 2011 | Registered CommenterZentsurugi

Lol at Hakan's only positive match-up being Blanka. I don't know about that. I've shut out plenty of Hakans, it's really not too difficult of a match-up. I agree that Rose should be a little higher, at least in B, and... Mike Ross would be very disappointed to see Cody in D. "He's the best character in the game."

January 5, 2011 | Registered CommenterJinxee

seriously quit bringing up Cody as an example of why the tier list sucks

they were generous with him. in my experience as an Abel & Cody player, he loses 7-3 to Abel and Gief.

ppl get a little carried away over how much damage and stun Cody can do with one combo.. and his U2 is real nice, but honestly. he has some huge flaws.. his defensive options are god awful and his footspeed is really bad. His bad foot speed has a detrimental effect on his footsies (which are still pretty damn good) and his throw game. Since his throw game sucks, and he has nothing aside from some really beastly frame traps to start his offense...

come on now, show me you can think. how does a craptastic throw game affect your frame traps?

imo Cody is right where he belongs. so is Akuma... so is Fei... so is Abel... so is everyone else. You can't just move characters. This tier list works on math.. simple sums.. if you want to move a character specify which matchups you think are wrong.

January 5, 2011 | Unregistered CommenterCody

@ Cody, I like f.Champ, I don't like these last two attempts at tier lists. I'd gladly cheer f.champ against any japanese but when it comes to tier lists america just doesn't have the character diversity(at top level) to make truly accurate lists.

January 5, 2011 | Unregistered CommenterJubay

Wait when is sim vs ryu match 3-7 in ryu favor?

January 5, 2011 | Unregistered CommenterDevilDanteX

ibuki is good against Guile, since when. If the Guile is playing lame it is easy for ibuki to get in and bait flash kicks or just throw him. But once the player plays aggressive she just gets hammered. and two good combos can lead to her been stunned. And against dhalsim I believe it about 5-5 as they both can beat each other up well.

However the I believe is pretty legit other than few matches. But they should really start making tier list on multiple players other than one.

January 5, 2011 | Unregistered Commenterforeigntsuka

Obligatory "Sakura is low because she's Sakura, not off any real data" post.

January 5, 2011 | Unregistered CommenterSomeguy

OH CMON FCHAMP, AKUMA IS TOO LOW. HE SHOULD BE IN HIS OWN TIER. THIS IS ASS

January 5, 2011 | Registered Commenterlordofultima

ok...fei long an A? that does not make sense.....

January 5, 2011 | Unregistered CommenterSFLOVA

What the hell are with these bad match-ups for so many characters I thought street fighter was a balanced gam- OH WAIT

January 5, 2011 | Unregistered CommenterTYPICAL WEEABOO

Who is the man responsible for making the Hakan match-ups? He and I need a serious talk.

January 5, 2011 | Unregistered CommenterRealpolitiix

If you've ever met Ryan "F.Champ" in person, you'd see how big of a douchebag he really is. Doesn't surprise me he puts his personal biased in the lists. Whoever thought he'd be good at this is as equally retarded as Jalapeno Chump himself.

January 5, 2011 | Unregistered CommenterKemo

bahahahahahhaahhahhahaha... HAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHA look at this list. This must be embarresing for IPLAYWINNER, the most biased list... So many strong top 15 chars, so low.

Sagat, hugely underrated.
Akuma, hugely overrated.

For instance, Sagat vs. Zangief is at BEST 7-3, its a ONE button victory.
Akuma vs Zangief is alot easier for Gief than Sagat, in addition. Dhalsim has a 7-3 matchup on Zangief, wether Fili likes it or not. Gief must be random to win, and that should be the first indicator.

Dhalsim vs. Ryu seems to be a real though matchup for ryu, not only 6-4.

Lets put it this way, if DH wasnt so strong. Filipino, would not place as good.

This list, is CRAP. Useless.

January 5, 2011 | Unregistered CommenterTheOneChar

dhalsim is 7:3? HAHAHAHA air was right

January 6, 2011 | Unregistered CommenterHakan

ridiculous, Rufus and Deejay are both B tier? That makes NO sense whatsoever.

p.s. F.Champ, eat a dick.

January 6, 2011 | Unregistered Commenterfb

ibuki vs Gief 6-4 in ibukis favour?really?

January 6, 2011 | Unregistered Commenterwtf?

A s far as Bison and dee jay Bison can punish dreadkicks and has an advantage on footsies.I really see that match up as a 6-4 Bisons favor. Also Guile Bison is 7-3 has been in other list and nothing has changed. It's really tough on Bison.He cant really get in. And when he does he does moderate damage.And guile has the tools to push him out.

January 6, 2011 | Unregistered Commenterfight club

Cody doesn't deserve to be that low. Bad defensive options? He has one of the best normal anti-air attacks in the game, you absolutely cannot jump in at Cody and not eat his Back+MP or a Bingo. People also forget about the knife, which makes Cody extremely dangerous. His crouching fierce turns into a nasty and highly damaging anti-air and his jabs are ridiculous, he can totally lock down and chip away at his opponents.

Cody is a beast.

January 6, 2011 | Unregistered Commenteripraewinnah

that tier list is bs.....

January 6, 2011 | Unregistered Commenteruccs

Judging by the signal to noise ratio in these comments, the next time a tier list goes up just shut off the ability to comment at all.

January 6, 2011 | Unregistered CommenterHatchetJob

I agree with HatchetJob, I don't care much for butthurt people who don't like how there mains got rated.

January 6, 2011 | Unregistered CommenterCammylover22

sorry there should be their. My mistake.

January 6, 2011 | Unregistered CommenterCammylover22

Boxer vs ?

5:5 ELF
5:5 SAK
6:4 HAK

Sakura, Hakan and Rose should NEVER have been so low.

January 6, 2011 | Registered CommenterBalGod

This list is a joke -- why dont they have all the best players with their respective character duke it out with each other for 10 games n see how often each player wins with their character against all the other players because it seems every time they come out with a tier list its something they thought off while they were taking a crap in the bathroom.

January 6, 2011 | Unregistered CommenterEnlightener
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