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« IPLAYWINNER MAY 2010 SUPER STREET FIGHTER 4 TIER LIST »

MAJOR UPDATE: PLEASE CLICK HERE FOR THE MOST CURRENT MAY 2010 TIER LIST

So this has been in the works for a while now, believe it or not -- the first true iPlayWinner tier list! This whole project was directed by Ryan "Filipino Champ" Ramirez as he contacted many top players across the country (Justin Wong, Floe, Marn, John Choi, Ricky Ortiz, Keno, Tatsu -- the list goes on and on, it really does) to get their input on certain match ups -- so rest assured this isn't just one players opinion!  We finished punching in all the data and getting it organized a couple days ago and here it is for everyone's viewing pleasure!

On the right you'll see the different ranks for all the characters, and on the left you can click the image to see the match up chart to get an idea on how they got there.

CLICK FOR FULL MATCH UP CHARTA+: Rufus, Akuma

A: Abel, Dictator, Ryu,  Chun Li, Boxer, E. Honda

B+: Zangief, Ibuki, Sagat, Guile, Blanka 

B: Cammy, T. Hawk, Juri, El Fuerte, Dhalsim, Ken, C. Viper

C+: Seth, Fei Long, DeeJay, Cody, Dudley, Adon, Gouken, Rose

C: Gen, Claw, Guy, Hakan

D: Makoto, Sakura, Dan

 

 

 

Now, the idea here is we will continue to update this tier list each month based on the opinions of top players around the world. So, don't be surprised if you see things change up a bit over the next couple months as more players learn about the new characters and strategies with the current cast.

You can always view the most current tier list here: iPlayWinner Super Street Fighter 4 Tier List

Reader Comments (151)

poor sagat =(

May 13, 2010 | Registered Commenterthxyoutoo

As with most tier lists, there are some things i agree with and others that I am just like whaaaaat? Besides, these things are suggestive and should only be a guideline. Really the only thing that's pretty unanimous is the high/top tier.

This list seems to suggest the tiers are large and very close together, which is both what i was expecting, and awesome. I also like the lack of an S tier, but we'll see how that pans out.

All that being said, good to see ol BOOTS (Bison) at the top. :D

May 13, 2010 | Registered CommenterNEGRO JUSTICE

Personally, I don't think Hakan is lacking in THAT many matchups, but it's good to see that he doesn't have anything below 4. The letter grades were a little misleading though, I almost raged for a sec before checking the numbers...

On another note, I think it's awesome how this game balances out according to this tier list. Not many characters have less than a 4 (or more than a 6), and if they do, they are very few in many.

May 13, 2010 | Registered CommenterBolton Lin

Daaamn Fuerte moving up in the world, that second ultra is vicious. Rufus took a beating by the nerf stick and wound up on top, who would have figured?

Also a big LOL at most of the new characters being middle to bottom.

May 13, 2010 | Unregistered Commenterwhitey

Wowza, T. Hawk in B+? Cool.

Poor Makoto, though...makes me want to play her even more now though!!

May 13, 2010 | Unregistered CommenterDr. Dre

marn your input was on this
<Marn>uh
<Marn>i dont remember
according to filipino champ
<Marn>putting input
<Marn>on anything
<Marn>lol

These tiers are stupid. Plus one of the so called people who gave input on this didn't even remember being asked specifically.

Those .5's look like they came out from conflicting opinions.

May 13, 2010 | Unregistered Commenterwtf

yo i like how fei long is a better character than sim. this might be the worst attempt at a list i have ever seen.

May 13, 2010 | Unregistered Commenterassomatic list

first

May 13, 2010 | Unregistered Commenterlklklk

Sabin->rule #1: never listen to justin tier lists
Sabin->rule #2: never take justin tier lists seriously
Sabin->this is the same guy that wanted seth banned come on now lol
Sabin->noone asked for ecs input too lol

May 13, 2010 | Unregistered Commenterwtf

A: Rufus, Abel, Dictator, Boxer, Ryu, Chun Li, Ibuki, C.Viper
B+: Blanka, Sagat, Guile, Juri, Dudley, Rose, Akuma
B: El Fuerte, Fei Long, Dhalsim, Ken, Seth, Gief, Honda, Sakura, T. Hawk, Claw
C: Adon, Cody, Gouken, DeeJay, Makoto, Cammy
D: Gen, Hakan, Guy, Dan

is my list.

May 13, 2010 | Unregistered CommenterMarn

fei longs ranking on the list is a little shocking. It would be kind of cool if there was a forum dedicated to certain reasons why these characters are ranked the way they are. I'm gona check now and see if there was one made. So far not bad at all. To me tier list don't really mean much esp with ssf4 because all of the chars feel really good if you stick with them.

May 14, 2010 | Unregistered CommenterKidult90

Wow couple of salty sailors on here, dear god. First off calm down. Second like Haunts said they will be doing this every month so things will no doubt change. Personally i think Guy will move up once people get his play style down.

The A tier can not be argued at the moment, i think a lot of people jumped far to soon on the Ryu is down graded now train with out thinking of that at all. Ryu has tools to handle everything. So yeah in a skilled hand hes going to win more then lose.

B+ tier Also looks solid in what i am seeing [ Keep in mind i am only seeing scrubs like me online] Geif can still do his thing. Honda still does crazy damage and will punish you hard for mistakes, and the rest all have tools. Good to see guile up high again.

B tier i wonder if Cammy should not be moved downed to C and Adon moved up. Then again my knowledge on this is not the knowledge of the people who put in the time to come up with it. Just to me Cammy with a damage nerf is a Cammy who can be waited out and poked to death. Much like Guy i think people are still getting down the Adon game.

Read the list to guys. Lots of the in favor match up are 6-4 only see one 7-3 and a lot of 5.5 on there. We have the looks of what might be the most balanced fighting game ever. Of course still very early and match ups will no doubt change are play style is figured out/evolves.

Good job IPWi think most sane people will look at this list and nod. I will look forward to see how it changes over the months to come.

May 14, 2010 | Registered CommenterSpiron

Oh and those asking why Fei ended up in B keep in mind that is still mid tier. Also once you see a good Fei you understand why hes better now. He still has that godlike overhead but a lot of his stuff is just safer now.

May 14, 2010 | Registered CommenterSpiron

Dudley and Cody sitting alongside Claw, I have both at B+. Agree with Ibuki being top though, she has so many damn options.

May 14, 2010 | Unregistered Commenterthecapsaicinkid

I would have Blanka and T.Hawk at B tier or C and moved Sim up to B+. Blanka is a little better than before but many of the characters have gotten much better. Abel's Ultra 2 is silly. Seems like a quick fix to make Abel better.

May 14, 2010 | Unregistered CommenterRiot Guard

I really do think though Makoto wont be as solid for a non competitive player though.

May 14, 2010 | Unregistered CommenterC5Audio

cammy is top 5, u guys are crazy

May 14, 2010 | Unregistered Commenteryoutubecammy

IB against Boxer is 5,5 and 5 in the picture.

May 14, 2010 | Unregistered Commenterqpoa

gief dictator matchup is not 5/5. gief still hurts and dictator has to work very hard to get his dmg in.

May 14, 2010 | Unregistered Commenternowandlater

but overall nice to have a little spread sheet for a little reference. thanks IPW! oh and sry for double post

May 14, 2010 | Unregistered Commenternowandlater

There seems to be some errors in the matchup table. Juri vs. Zangief is listed at 4.5:4.5 for some reason.

May 14, 2010 | Unregistered Commenterd3v

Hey guys. I didn't have anything to do with the list (was as surprised to see it as all of you) but I'm glad that we have this first reference point. The next tier list we will hopefully get more input from even more top players.

It will be interesting to see how the second list changes from this one.

I don't think there's a player in the world who is going to agree with the majority of *any* tier list that is this detailed, but it's fun to try and to talk about it haha!

May 14, 2010 | Registered CommenterFuriousRGD

@D3V

it shows 4.5: 5.5 to me. i know there's a ton of lines thanks to 30 characters. maybe you were off a line?

May 14, 2010 | Registered CommenterFuriousRGD

Cammy's line vs Makoto reads 4 and Makoto's line vs Cammy also reads 4.

I assume that Cammy has the advantage in that match 6/4.

That would put her at 171 between fuerte and fei long. Same tier no big deal...

May 14, 2010 | Unregistered CommenterFoshizzle383

Wow Rose a D? ima nub and know thats too low

May 14, 2010 | Registered CommenterBlz One

Funny how the three new characters I picked up are ranked low at this point, at C tier. There are going to be changes and adjustments made over the course of time. But we're always going to agree to disagree. Personally, I feel Rose should be higher and Cody as well but I'm not insulted. I'm sticking with them because I enjoy them. But a starting point has to be established. For the most part I feel content with the list and the balance is looking quite good. Good stuff IPW.

May 14, 2010 | Registered CommenterNagglepuss

Most of the Cody data is from me if you guys were wondering. ^_____^

yeah he sucks but he is fun. HA HA!

May 14, 2010 | Registered Commenterhaunts

everybody should just zip it for a sec
this tier list is not FINAL we will update it every month
accordingly to tourney results.

Thx for positive comments ^^

P.S. HATERS GO MAKE YOUR GOD DAMN OWN TIER LIST

May 14, 2010 | Unregistered CommenterFilipino Champ

thanks for fixing the cammy makoto matchup ^^

May 14, 2010 | Unregistered CommenterFoshizzle383

Let us know the Typos

May 14, 2010 | Unregistered CommenterFilipino Champ

@Filipino Champ Exactly!!! And you're welcome, much appreciated.

@Haunts Yeah my sucky characters are quite fun. =P

May 14, 2010 | Registered CommenterNagglepuss

Why so mad champ...

May 14, 2010 | Unregistered CommenterFlip Chump

based on the totals it definitely looks as if Ibuki should be moved with B+ since she is only .5 from gief and 3 whole points from chun.

Also Deejay and Adon have the same score but different tiers. Is this because Deejay does better against the high-tier characters?

May 14, 2010 | Unregistered CommenterFoshizzle383

filipino champ makes rufus at toppest tier cause he always get bodied by ricky

May 14, 2010 | Unregistered Commenterhello2you

LOL. Look at all you fools talking about who's good and who's not. LAWL, GO TO A TOURNAMENT A PROVE WHO'S GOOD!

May 14, 2010 | Unregistered CommenterTrollFiend

Dudley in D Tier? Seriously, he's at least B-Tier. He owns so many characters up close and he has that godlike dash-under to make getting in easier. His moves are very safe, do a lot of damage and you can combo your Super and your Ultra from pretty much anywhere in any situations for good damage.

Besides that: This is a pretty decent list, especially when considering it's the first of its kind and you'll be working on it nonstop.

May 14, 2010 | Registered CommenterCheesus

Anyone who doesnt think RUFUS IS #1
gotta be smoking CRACK...

May 14, 2010 | Unregistered CommenterFilipino Champ

Considering that most of the new characters are lower on the totem pole I am extremely skeptical about the list. It seems to me like people are still feeling out the new challengers and seeing what they do. No doubt there will be some major changes in this tier list in the next few months.

May 14, 2010 | Unregistered CommenterMr.HamSandwich

I don't know why everyone is so hellbent on the new characters being A Tier. Obviously we still have a lot to learn about them and the tiers will shift but goddamn new doesn't equal good.

May 14, 2010 | Unregistered CommenterKelter_Skelter

I've seen nothing to suggest that Rufus is any better in Super.

May 14, 2010 | Unregistered Commenter...

@...

or any worse except for snakestrike damage.

May 14, 2010 | Unregistered CommenterValkyrie

@... & Valkyrie With that said, that suggests his place hasn't been moved from Vanilla. He's still really good!!! And yes the top place holders from Vanilla haven't changed much so they are rightfully securing their spots with the exception of Sagat of course.

May 14, 2010 | Registered CommenterNagglepuss

I personally like the idea of .5's.

Either way, good foundation for a first list - I expect to see a lot of things change/shift - but still pretty good for a first (early) list.

Game looks really balanced!

May 14, 2010 | Registered CommenterSteadiestShark

Dudley isn't D-Tier, Cheesus. He's C-Tier...

May 14, 2010 | Unregistered Commenterrebound

Finally, a tier list that has Sagat at B+. I'm satisfied. There are a lot of things to dispute that will be updated over time, but this is solid from now.

May 14, 2010 | Unregistered Commenterthegame4ever

@rebound: Ooops!
But my point still stands.

May 14, 2010 | Registered CommenterCheesus

Stop saying "he should be in this tier".
You have to name match-ups that should be different, because that's how the list is made.

May 14, 2010 | Unregistered Commenterhans

To be honest I think there are characters worse than Dan.

May 14, 2010 | Registered CommenterJarv

Ha, leave it to a tier list to bring 47 comments and counting.

I realize this is obvious but I think it's important to note that tier lists are a picture of a game's past and (at times, lesser so) its present--NOT THE GAME'S FUTURE. It's merely a snapshot of what match-ups look like.

Honestly, I personally don't like tier lists because most people don't understand how to interpret them...i.e. they read them like they're the game's religious doctrine...or use it as a scapegoat. But they have their uses.

Any of these chars are one new strategy away from being thrown up the charts. So don't be discouraged or salty...just have fun, keep experimenting, the tiers are still (overall) pretty damn condensed.

As a side note, I have to point out how my two vanilla mains (Bison and Chun) are now considered A, and the two new guys I play and have fun with (Guy and Makoto) are D. I dunno, I just thought the irony there was funny.

May 14, 2010 | Registered CommenterMonsterGoGo

Personally I disagree with Rufus being #1. I think him and Akuma should switch places.
Other than that, looks real good.

May 14, 2010 | Unregistered CommenterCody
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