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Capcom Unity reader JiCi posed an interesting question on Capcom Unity's Ask Capcom Forum. He posted the top 3 biggest rosters in a fighting game and asked if Capcom will someday break the record and become number one!  Interestingly, he also took the time to research a possible method for doing this without making another "vs" game which is very interesting.  JiCi's post was more interesting than Capcom's replies, but Seth Killian and Christian Svensson's responses are printed below as well.

Again thanks to Valkyrie for the tip.

JiCi:

BIGGEST ROSTER IN A FIGHTING GAME (Top 3)

1) Mortal Kombat: Armageddon from Midway: 64 characters
2) Marvel vs Capcom 2: New Age of Heroes from Capcom: 56 characters
3) Samurai Shodown VI from SNK Playmore: 52 characters


Will Capcom someday the record that Midway is holding for "biggest roster in a fighting game" with Mortal Kombat Armageddon ?"

One way Capcom could break this record without resorting to another "VS. Capcom" game would be to make a dream-match Street Fighter title.

(For those who don't know, a "dream match" is basically a fighting game with characters from many other iterations of a certain series that disregard anything that belongs to the actual storyline of the series; dead characters, boss characters, characters who left the story can all be used in a "dream match"; it's technically a "who would win between this and that character ?" type of game)

If we take all characters from all SF games, we get a grand total of 72 characters:

1.Street Fighter 1 (Ryu, Ken, Retsu, Geki, Joe, Mike, Lee, Gen, Birdie, Eagle, Adon, Sagat [12])
2.Street Fighter 2 (Chun-Li, Blanka, E. Honda, Guile, Dhalsim, Zangief, Balrog, Vega, M. Bison, T. Hawk, Cammy, Fei Long, Dee Jay, Akuma [14])
3.Street Fighter Alpha (Charlie, Sodom, Guy, Rose, Sakura, Dan, Rolento, R. Mika, Cody, Karin, Juni, Juli, Maki, Ingrid [13])
4.Street Fighter 3 (Alex, Yun, Yang, Dudley, Ibuki, Oro, Elena, Sean, Necro, Gill, Hugo, Urien, Remy, Makoto, Twelve, Q [16])
5.Street Fighter 4 (C. Viper, Abel, El Fuerte, Rufus, Seth, Gouken, Juri, Hakan [8])
6.Final Fight (Haggar, Dean, Carlos, Lucia, Kyle, Poison, El Gado, Damnd, Edi E. [9])

Christian Svensson:

Some day maybe, but I don't think that will happen any time soon.

Seth Killian:

There's more to a great fighting game than a big roster, right?  If you'd rather play MK: Armageddon or SamShoVI than MVC2, that's your funeral. :)

Source: Capcom Unity's Ask Capcom Forum

Reader Comments (14)

This is kinda stupid... no point in making a huge roster if it's not fully balanced, and the best proof of that is Marvel vs Capcom 2. If I wanted to play a 100chars, totally broken game I'll stick to mugen, thank you very much. Capcom, keep up the good work.

February 1, 2010 | Unregistered Commenterironraiden

"(For those who don't know, a "dream match" is basically a fighting game with characters from many other iterations of a certain series that disregard anything that belongs to the actual storyline of the series; dead characters, boss characters, characters who left the story can all be used in a "dream match"; it's technically a "who would win between this and that character ?" type of game)"

If SFIV isn't already a dream match, SSFIV definitely is!

February 1, 2010 | Unregistered Commenterdementia

I agree with both of you LOL! Bigger roster doesn't mean great game. It *certainly* doesn't mean balanced game. I'd rather have a tightly controlled roster of mostly balanced characters than a hundred broken ones. I'm not going to rag on Marvel vs Capcom 2 though because it's an awesome game despite its broken balance.

Super SF4 is already probably as close to a Dream Match as you can get, I agree!

February 1, 2010 | Registered CommenterFuriousRGD

wtb a cvs3 with bigger roster, its pretty balanced

February 1, 2010 | Unregistered Commenterprofessorlester

LOL @ SKill shitting all over Sam Sho VI. That game seems pretty decent actually. MK is fair game of course :D

February 1, 2010 | Unregistered CommenterTRobb

kof 2002 um should be up there with around 60 or more

February 1, 2010 | Unregistered Commenteremp batman

These aren't the top 3 biggest rosters in a fighting game... According to wiki, it goes:

1) KoF 2002 UM (66 chars)
2) Mortal Kombat Armageddon (64)
3) KoF '98 UM (60)

I definitely agree that a smaller, balanced fighter takes precedence over a broken, bloated one any day, but that doesn't mean there's not a ton of fun to be had with the latter. Remember how much fun it was to experiment in MvC2 when it was new, before it just became Magneto/Sentinel/Storm/Cable/etc.? I'd be all for Capcom revisiting that approach if only for that kind of novelty to make a comeback. Maybe if Capcom stays true to its own suggestion of using the SF4 engine to revive other series', they could combine the assets sometime afterward and achieve something like this?

February 1, 2010 | Unregistered Commenterqial

SamSho VI is actually a great game. Seth doesn't know what he's talking about. He should focus on SSFIV, particularly not making any statements that'll turn out to be untrue later on (e.g. "No one is getting nerfed. Everyone is getting buffed.").

February 1, 2010 | Unregistered CommenterRiceCracker

I would love a dream game with the parry system and the alpha counter system in the game to help balance everything out would be fine

February 1, 2010 | Unregistered Commentercuttyb

Yeah, I'd rather play SSVI over MvC2 any day, Mr. Killian. MK is LOLZ of course.

Came here to point out that KOF '98 UM and 2002 UM have bigger rosters, but it's already been done!

February 2, 2010 | Unregistered Commenterlyte

Are we not counting anime games now? ;) I think DBZ BT3 had like 60 characters.

February 2, 2010 | Unregistered CommenterAndrex

Err, actually that's 161 characters according to Wikipedia. o_0

February 2, 2010 | Unregistered CommenterAndrex

Dragon Ball Z BT3 had 161 characters.

June 23, 2010 | Unregistered CommenterInfectedGT

actually
i can mention 3 dragonball games alone that has more characters right now

dragon ball z tenkaichi 3: 162
dragon ball z raging blast 2: 90
dragon ball z raging blast: 70

May 23, 2011 | Unregistered Commentertenkaichi
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