Thursday
18Jun2009
iPlayWinner.com Podcast Episode 02 feat. Gootecks and Oichi
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haunts | 18 Comments
haunts | 18 Comments 
Episode two is up and this time we interview Gootecks (http://www.gootecks.com) and Oichi (http://www.versuscity.net) on training others in fighting games. This is a fairly controversial subject these days within the community so we wanted to debunk some myths and talk about how this helps new players break into the scene. We also discuss how to practice on your own and how there are schools in Japan that teach people Virtua Fighter among other entertaining topics.
Check it out and sound off in the comments to let us know what you think!
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Reader Comments (18)
Real good stuff.
good breakdown of the "training for money" debate. some very interesting stuff. imo it all just boils down to people, pride about roots, and the internet.
great podcast. I'm definitely interested in paying for lessons from you guys, but I'm on PS3. = \
Do you know anyone else who's offering lessons right now?
cool podcast bro
That was awesome! I had to pause halfway through to go make a sandwich i was enjoying that so much. Great breakdown on everything you mentioned.
I wish these podcasts were more of a regular thing, because the first two are excellent. They tackle interesting topics and are informative. You guys certainly made the argument for offering lessons like this. I especially liked Ryan's comparing it to guitar lessons. Getting the Japanese perspective in there was also very interesting. Good stuff man, as always.
great podcast.
interesting hints for the training mode.
Glad you guys enjoyed it!
@Avatar2
I'd love to do more of these but I dont like doing podcasts just for the sake of doing podcasts you know? I just have to wait until I can think of an interesting topic and have a decent guest on there. Oichi makes an awesome co-host though!
Great podcast. Where is the beat at the beginning of the podcast from? Shit is crazy.
@CrazyMike
the opening beat is an original my roommate made for us jsut for the podcast. Cool huh? I'll try scratching "iplaywinner" over it next time. LOL.
gootecks brought up a subject im having trouble with right now. Which is getting into the SF scene in your area. Meeting these people are intimidating as fuck
Stopped listening at the "I'm a big name at Street Fighter IV, as are you" part. LOL.
But then again maybe I just don't know?
what is this plinking thing? I havent had much success with double taping and I might want to try it out
Those of you interested in the Plinking method that was mentioned in the podcast, check out this thread on SRK:
http://forums.shoryuken.com/showthread.php?t=186686
Fantastic podcast. I think the training is a fantastic idea. More power to you all. Experts' time is worth money and I hope you make a ton of money from it.
One thing I thought of though, is that just because someone is a "big name" does not make them the best teacher. So I don't really agree with the "you never heard of this guy so he isn't worth paying" idea. As always I will drop back to BJJ metaphor. I have trained with guys who have fought in the UFC but they were not good teachers. However, another teacher, a guy that no one has ever heard of, was 10x better than those big names when it came to helping me learn.
Meeting new players is tough. I think much of it stems from the fact most of the time you will ONLY meet other players at tournaments. At tournament your mindset is so different from casuals. You have to turn off your "nice guy" switch and I this makes meeting someone who can help you level up difficult. Ego is always there but meeting casually definitely make things easier.
That's why I started a casual SF4 meetup in my area. When competition is not the crux of the meetup people (some people, not all) are a lot more receptive to helping others.
@bradido
That's true. It's actually difficult to find players who can actually describe what they are doing in the match.
There are also good players out there who just do not enter tournaments or do not care for the stress and hassle of it all.
The podcast was stunning! I totally agree the arguement with pro gamer training sessions. Its just like paying for music lessons. If you want to get to a certain skill and your commited id certainly encourage you try this. Myself im from the UK and the community isnt a fraction of the size what it is in america so i am extremely limited in options for practice. Online was my only option as none of my friends play this game to a level i want to play at and local LAN and tournaments are completley dead for me. So i booked a lesson.....
I paid approx £12(GBP) for a 30 minute session(to some people this might be a problem to me its saving my liver) and it was a great investment. I learnt alot more about the character i desired to train with ranging from normal to more advance techniques. It included my characters wide range of different moves from normal kicks to specials and supers and how to implement them into your game also including certain match-ups.
The training was done from basics to the more advance as the session went on and also some real games to see from my teachers perspective to witness my strenghts and weaknesses. Everything we did was documented for personal use and sent to me in an email to refer back to for when i practice.
I HIGHLY RECOMMEND THIS!
Come on, man. I don't know if you were joking about Sagat, but how you not be for at least a small decrease in damage?